Thursday, December 22, 2005

18 Comments:

 

Learning about Judism would be an interesting thing to do.

while u do this, plz try to do comparative & analytical study and find out how come they are so rich, secondly, why they always have to be against muslims, whereas the customs and religion is somewhat similar. I've heard they eat halal meat. more interestingly, they usually cover their heads while praying and have beards (men, I'm talking about here). yet the get away with being called extremist. If we do that, we are extremist, and if they do it, they're just devout jews.


Total mystery to me. Do share your knowledge and experiences.

6:54 AM

 

^
How mature.

8:01 AM

 Anonymous said...

its a very good thought indeed.bravo!
im frm khi n a regular reader of yr posts.i also started ths reading of quran wid tafseer sum 1 yr bak.Allah ka shukr since thn ive been readin it daily,very lil at times n successfully completed 16 paras uptil now.currently im in IBA.ths understandig of quran n dr.zakir's lectures helped me a lot to practise islam practically.ive also started islamic hijaab on my own,quite contrary to my previous fashion conscious self n a bunch of other islamic changes. by the grace of Allah ive been practising thm successfully.my family,frnds n cozs didn't encourage these things much.i faced a lot of criticisms initially but im very contended n feel stronger spiritually now.alhamdullilah. let me metion tht yr posts have been a big n i mean literally big help.
in ths regard i wanted to talk to u coz ive been confrontin a lot of islamic issues lately.i wud really want to talk to sum1 like u.plus do temme whch tafseer u r planin to read.if u dont mind u can add me up n we can talk(after yr exams that is:)).my yahoo id is munibazafar@yahoo.co.uk.u can add me up there or mail me n give sum contact id of yrs.i dont knw whether its appropriate to write my id down here but i guess therez no other way out.ill tell u msn id thereon,it wud b of great help to me if u talk coz even if u cudnt sort out those issues u can at least guide me .lookin fwd for yr response.takecarez .best of luck for yr exams:)

9:27 AM

 

Assalaamu Alykum.

Reading about Judaism would be interesting -one day. I just feel right now I need to know more about my religion. Free time should be currently (for me) spent in that.
My sis is very interested in Judaism, not obviously alhamdulillah as a religion to follow. She has alot of books on it, so I have flicked through some. I think Karen Armstrong has taken it upon herself to figure out the links between Islam, Chritanity and Judaism. You can always read a book by her. One more thing why I can't read it is the rubbish they sometimes write about Islam.
Anyway, my sis has this one book, I think a book about all the important and influential personalities in the history of Judaism, everyone from Rothchilds (clever people) to one of the original owners from MArks & Spencer. Yeah..one of them was a jew...but it does'nt matter now, it's owned by millions currently, inshaAllah.
Also, very amusingly, (since I have an aunt in Jamaat Islami). No where are the owners of Pepsi or Coke mentioned. (Just a joke there, no offence to memebers to JI).

Anyway, since I'm in the mood of writing, I'll continue inshaAllah. Yes Jews are so clever and cunning. This Rothchilds, one of the grandsons of the original Rothchilds went to France when Jews were'nt allow to buy property. What the clever man did was he kept booking rooms in the hotel he was living in. That is at one time he became the only tenant of the whole hotel!
And eventually bought it!
(I may be wrong, it may have been a son not a grandson and it may have been some other country).

HOW CUNNING! Like, *stupid me* my mind just would'nt work like that...if I was in that situation, I'd go " OH well, they don't sell land to Jews...move on to the next country!'
How clever. How cunning!

If only more Muslims had minds like that...Insha'Allah.

You know I actually heard something similar to the young boy story. I just can't remmeber who told me to confirm it.

Tafseer...yeah...would'nt that be great. Only bad darussalaam (actually love them), raised their prices by nearly 20 %.... yep... tafseer ibn katheer is now worth 6000....but they give discount (of abt 14%)

Anyway, I've heard about tafsir.com, but don't know how authentic it is.

Tkae my advise start small: from darussalaam by the tafseer ibn katheer for juz 30 (only that is sold separately), and try to finish the 30th juz first. I recently bought it but have'nt gotten down to actually properly studying it.

Now kill me: but i'm not doing a'levels either! HA. I actually did istikharah and I think the answer was no!

Ma'asslaaam.

9:47 AM

 

Asslaaamu alykum anonymous,

Masha'Allah well done sis! SubhaanAllah, Allah guides whom He Wills, whenever He Wills.

Take so much care and Ma'assalaam!

9:51 AM

 

It's important to learn about the world around you. At some point I hope to become more knowledgeable about Islam.

Broadening your horizions does not equate to a dilution of your beliefs. If anything it can strengthen them.

1:31 PM

 

Yes reading Quran without translation of meaning is kind of just cold comfort. You need to start reading it with translation and tafseer.

On the point of Niqabis being arrogant, I don't believe that. That is just a social thing that has crept in.

On the point of Judaism, I have many Jew friends as well as Christians and we all get along well together. I have learnt that there are a number of similarities between the religions and that is why Allah calls them Ahle-Kitab. Followers of the Book. Agreed that their Holy books have been changed and that is why God brought Islam onto the people of the world. It is a fun and informative learning about other religions and certainly most of the times as the commentor above me said: it will only strengthen your own beliefs. I know it did mine.

On the point of death of the 2 people, Innah lillah wa innah ilayhay rajeoun Niqabi. One of my uncles died recently and he was shot too. It felt horrible. I know death is like that but when our time comes, noone can stop it. We have to cry a little, be brave and move on thinking it is what Allah wanted and was fate.

2:30 PM

 

Salaam
Wow you've sparked up some discussion :) Maria's comment is a post long heh

Sufism is not as simple as we think it is. Most people take Sufism to be love and attachment that should exist for Allah and for fellow humans. Dhikr is just one tiny element of it.
sometime back this course comparative religions was offered in LUMS, I couldn't take it as it was a higher level course but I just searched for the course outline I'll just send it to you :)

and Always share the knowledge :)

10:24 PM

 

Suleman: Oh insha'Allah definately, I'd love to look up an explanation to your above questions. I've been thinking about quiet a few of them myself too.


Umar: lol..ermm I don't know how to answer that! But jazakallah for droppin by.

Anonymous: Oh masha'Allah I'm so happy to know abt the progress you've made as a practising Muslimah. Its always great to know about people who've changed their lives for the better. Its very motivating. I've added you up and Insha'Allah looking forward to talk to you soon. Nah, I think its okay to write your email addy here...no stalkers here, alhamdolilah (I'm hoping!) OK you asked me about the tafseer, well I've got this huge book called 'tafseer-e-Usmaani' I think. I'm not sure about the name but its written by Mufti Taqi Usmaani and I know that its authentic. Jazakallah for droppin by, May Allah keep you steadfast, Ameen.

Mariq Q: Wow! You're a good commentor! So has your sister got anything siginificant to say about Judaism, as in, in terms of Islam? I've heard about the Rothchilds but not in detail. They're definately very clever and intelligent people. It said about the jews that they are the best business men in the world. Its probably their quick thinking or something. I wouldn't take that as a negative aspect, just as long as their not using that against Islam. I've heard that they control the world economy, but this could be an exaggeration. You see, there's always so much stuff you hear about the jews, while most of it could be true, I believe that atleast 15% is made up. So I want to know for sure whats Jewish and whats just blown out of proportion. I'll ask my dad about the book you talk abt so fondly and insha'Allah check it out. But I've already got one at home 'Tafseer-e-Usmaani', have you heard abt that one? You're not doing A levels either? Well...if I were to speak my own mind, I'd say...no problem. Because A levels is not going to determine your intelligence or give you success. They do, however, open you up to alot of new things that you might not ever read on your own. Thats probably the only advantage. I mean I would have never bothered to study anything 'sociological' had I not taken that as a subject at school. But otherwise...its ok, you don't need to prove anything to anyone. Insha'Allah I hope you become ba'amal on deen 100% , Ameen.

Rinceoir:
I totally agree with you. :)

Reza: Exactly, thats what I think. I'm glad you don't find Niqabis arrogant, maybe the misconception is clearing out. Hopefully!
I started out with the same concept that if they're called Ahle-kitab then there must be quiet a many similarities too.

Mayya: I'm not very knowledgable about Sufism but a fello blogger (check Usman in my link list) is, or atleast knows their major principles. He's not a Sufi but I gathered that at one point is his life, he aspired to be one. LUMS sounds really interesting to me, with its diverse courses and all. Jazakallah for the email, insha'Allah I'm gonna look up into the books the course mentions.

4:49 AM

 

niqabi - my first comment was directed at suleman.

I have Ma'ariful Quran by Mufti Muhammad Shafi. It was recommended to me by a scholar instead of Tafseer ibn Kathir, only for the reason that it is in a simpler language for common people to understand. Alhumdullilah, I've found it quite easy to read. Sadly though, the english translation (which I have) isn't complete yet, so I only have the first 7 (I think) volumes. If you have no problem reading urdu, you could always pick up the original text.

5:33 AM

 

Niqabi! I hope your denouncing Sufism has nothing to do with my posts on it. That was precisely the reason why I did not want to write on it...I know it sounds horribly difficult, but there's so much more to it...I suggest you read up a cupla books on Sufism. My suggestion would be: Tazkirat-e-Awliya, written by Fariddudin Attar in the 13th century. Selected translations are available everywhere...another is The Way of the Sufi by idris Shah...they should be helpful intros...

as far as Judaism is concerned, read up on it, but I would read up more of my own religion before delving into deep judaistic archives...

7:17 AM

 

Assalaamu 'Alykum.

Jazak' allah Khair for the dua.As for being a good commentor..well, all I can say is that I have my moments.

You know, I think most of the movie houses in Hollywood are owned by Jews, and thats why nobody wanted to produce and make 'Passion of the Christ'.
I should mention here that MGM was recently bought by Sony. (Japanese = shinto not jew)

Just some odd peole I remember who are jew: Max Factor, Helena Rubeinstein, Wooody Allen.

To an extent I really believe its true that Jews control alot of the economy in the West. Particularly American and most probably Britain. If anything then I think Muslims should learn something from them! They are (most of them) so steadfast upon their religion and then there are some muslims.

I often see on tv some jewish guy cycling down the road in britain with loooong sideburns and those clothes! While muslims are scared and intimidated (alot of them).

Suleman, I'm no expert but here are my humble views: I think Jews are rich because they primarily dealed with money. I've read abt this in Seerah, I've read abt this in Shakespeare, and then the Rothchilds story (in other words very recently). Ribaa was always a source of income for them, and hence, Allah Willed they became rich. Right. Then they started buying property in Palestine, yadda, yadda.

In Seerah, it is to this extent, the Jews settled in Yathrib (Madinah) and adopted the Arab manner of language, way of life, dress, etc. They loaned money to the Arabs for their inter-tribal war funds. In turn they seized land. Yep something to this extent.

Cunning freaks, they've always been like that, innit?

I'm actually learning from them too . I sincerely believe that a couple of great minds like that who fear Allah, can do wonders for our Muslim ummah, insha'Allah.

Tafseer. There may be alot f authentic tafseer books out there insha'Allah I dunno. Most famous is ibn Katheers. As its used by most scholars & the like.

Education: ladeedeedum. I'm happy. Sis' envying me. everythingis fine alhamdullilah...waiting for mom to come back from india..then the bomb might drp inshaAllah. She (and her side of family) are big on studies. She not as much as her family. But inshaallah i've made up my mind..I've got no time. Obviously everyone should'nt start thinking like me (it's fard khafayaa..that's what's its called innit?). but then that the problem...I can't do uni and a levels for the same reasons: I have no time.

Right then..Ma'assalaam.

9:37 AM

 

Maria Q: Wow...you're knowledgable masha'Allah. By the way...have you ever lived in England?

hahah@then the bomb might drp inshaAllah. The Insha'Allah bit at the end is hilarious!

Usman: LOL...it was precisely because of your post. It didn't put me off, no, it just kinda made me understand sufism. Insha'allah if I get the time, I'll look up into the books you've mentioned.

10:00 AM

 

Assalaamu 'Alykum.

Jazak 'aAllah. Enough with tareef. please.
Nopes never in my 18 years have I stepped out of the Indo-pak-UAE region.
That too india once..then it's just been pak-uae.

What would make yo usay that?

well, mom's inshaAllah coming AFTER eid (boo hoo, first eid without both my parents) hence I'm currently off the hook.

When is eid?
Ma'assalam.

6:23 PM

 

aslamualikum niqaabi

my comment is not relevant to your post.
BUT

yes i've been to england and yes i know people to england and no i dont live in england and (i dont live in pakistan either; have a look at my profile!)

just a side comment
if you need real stuff on sufiism (by tht i mean refutations holla at my blog!)

6:40 PM

 

Maria Q: Your lingo made me say that. The use of the slang 'innit'. Its slang for isn't it and its not a chat slang. Its part of the street slang in britain..so I was jst wondering...

11:52 PM

 

Assalaamu Alykum.

lol, I have been so influenced by england, you would'nt believe. Always listed to british music, (when I listened to music) read british books, watched bbc prime, yadda yadda, hence I picked up british slang. Actually innit is the only one i think.

Ah, oh, I did'nt mind you asking me at all.

Also, just maria. maria q sounds so formal...YAAR!

2:16 AM

 

Salams dear. Try "Zia-ul-Quran" as a tafseer AND an intro to Sufism. Also, maybe pick up "Inner Aspects of Faith" by Shahidullah Faridi. moonovermedina.com sells them as well as other easy to follow books.

Oh, and for a nice intro to Judaism check out http://velveteenrabbi.blogs.com/blog/

9:20 PM

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